Why I Chose Stoicism Over Epicureanism



Philosophy isn’t some wasted elective from high school, or a lot of debt from a college with no method of recompense — it’s a tool for life. When understood and applied, it can help you lead a good life, but first you have to define what a “good life” actually means.

I’ve dabbled in philosophy. Plato’s cave allegory spoke to me because I thought I was the guy coming back into the cave. Socrates made me realize I’d barely removed a shackle and was likely still amused by shadows. My whole perception felt one foundational shift away from ending up on its head.

Alan Watts had me convinced for a minute that I was basically a Buddhist — until I realized those teachings were, in many ways, ubiquitous, just defined differently across cultures. Diogenes was the original world’s most interesting man, if only for his contempt of the future “king of kings.” In what I felt at the time was peak philosophy, Cynicism all well and good, but useless if everyone embraced it.

My dive into Stoicism was probably kicked off by a misunderstanding of the philosophy. I was dealing with a lot of physical and mental pain and thought it would numb me to everything — the dictionary Stoic ideal. But true Stoicism, as a philosophy, requires you to feel things as they naturally come up, not suppress them. Marcus Aurelius and Epictetus taught me that you can endure pain, confront it, and still live virtuously. Later, through Seneca, I encountered Epicurean ideas and began comparing the two traditions.

Like all philosophies, both Stoicism and Epicureanism offer a path to a good life — but each defines the “good life” differently. Epicureanism teaches that the good life is about pursuing pleasure, and that the greatest pleasure comes from avoiding pain and achieving mental tranquility. Pleasure is not indulgence but a natural byproduct of freedom from disturbance. You can live simply, minimize stress, and even withdraw from society so long as you maintain enough contact to avoid loneliness.

Stoicism, however, is different. The good life isn’t measured by comfort or pleasure. A Stoic can endure misery, hardship, or loss — and still lead a good life — as long as they act virtuously, exercising wisdom, courage, justice, and temperance. Pain and adversity aren’t obstacles to happiness; they’re opportunities to practice and strengthen character. True fulfillment comes from mastering yourself and your response to the world. Stoicism is inherently non‑isolationist: virtue demands engagement with life, not withdrawal from it.

This contrast becomes clear when looking at friendship. In the early discussion of Epicureanism in Cicero’s works, Torquatus presents the Epicurean view:

“We pursue friendship not so much for its own sake as for the hope of security it brings. For when friends are united, they provide each other with confidence, safety, and pleasure.”



Cicero, with all the sharpness of a master rhetorician, fires back:

“What sort of friendship is that, if it is only cultivated for advantage? True friendship is sought and cherished for its own sake. If you make pleasure the measure, then when utility ends, so does the bond. That is not friendship but a bargain.”



He doesn’t just critique — these read like zingers even today. When Torquatus claims that virtue is desirable because it leads to pleasure, Cicero’s counters expose the absurdity of reducing human flourishing to comfort and utility.

Here is where Stoicism triumphs for me. Both Epicureans and Stoics would agree that pursuing what is natural is of benefit to many, even if they give different reasons. Mankind has advanced to its dominant status on the planet because of our intercooperation. It is natural for mankind to work together, and that is at least part of the good life. Those principles are better understood in Stoicism.

Marcus Aurelius frames it beautifully:

“For we are made for cooperation, like feet, like hands, like eyelids, like the rows of teeth in our upper and lower jaws. To work against one another is contrary to nature.”



The Epicurean may find peace in his garden, but the Stoic finds purpose in the world. Happiness is not the absence of pain; it is the mastery of oneself and the fulfillment of one’s nature in cooperation with others. That is why, when given the choice, I have been trying to walk the Stoic path.

Mic G

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